{"id":429,"date":"2007-05-05T01:59:00","date_gmt":"2007-05-05T07:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/royblumenthal.com\/wordpress\/?p=429"},"modified":"2007-05-05T01:59:00","modified_gmt":"2007-05-05T07:59:00","slug":"a-polyamory-quandary-at-earth2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/royblumenthal.com\/wordpress\/a-polyamory-quandary-at-earth2\/","title":{"rendered":"A polyamory quandary at Earth2"},"content":{"rendered":"<div xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/1999\/xhtml\">\n<h2 class=\"date-header\">Friday, May 4, 2007<\/h2>\n<p><i>Service: * * * *<br \/>Food: * * 1\/2<br \/>Ambience: * * *<br \/>Babe Count: * * * *<br \/><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">As you might know, I attend a polyamory supper once a month. Last night (Friday), J and I schlepped off to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.earth2.co.za\/\">Earth 2<\/a> for this month&#8217;s installment.<\/p>\n<p>J and I are exploring the possibilities of poly. Currently, we&#8217;re dating only each other. And it&#8217;s pretty delicious as things stand. So who knows if one of us is going to end up with another partner. J isn&#8217;t really keen on having another partner. But she&#8217;s open to the possibility of me having another.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not exactly sure what this could mean for the future. But what it means for the present is that I&#8217;m not suffering the monogamy tunnel vision that I&#8217;ve customarily fallen into. I think it&#8217;s simply because the option exists for me to have another partner. So I&#8217;m not locked into this weird shut-down that I&#8217;ve been used to.<\/p>\n<p>So anyway, we&#8217;ve both been going to the poly moots every month. And they&#8217;re always at Earth 2, a vegan restaurant in Emmarentia\/Linden, across the road from the Emmarentia Dam.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;re vegan, or an ethical eater, try them out.<\/p>\n<p>One of the regular members of the group &#8212; a dapper fellow I&#8217;ll call &#8216;G&#8217; &#8212; brought a quandary with him to group.<\/p>\n<p>What would YOU advise???<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">First things first&#8230; The supper was good. I had a new addition to the menu&#8230; The felafel in pita. And the hot choc was outrageously delicious.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">There were very few people there. (O&#8230; What&#8217;s happening with you?? You don&#8217;t write. You don&#8217;t phone. You don&#8217;t love us anymore?)<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">But as usual, the conversation was superb.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">G brought a quandary that he wanted to share with the group.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">A buddy of his is in a dilemma, and G basically wanted to share that dilemma with the group in order to get some perspective on the matter.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">So here&#8217;s the dilemma. Let&#8217;s open it to the floor. I&#8217;m going to be using fake names, cos the names aren&#8217;t important. (I&#8217;ve changed all names to protect the innocent. Since polyamory isn&#8217;t the most mainstream of relationship choices for most South Africans, many people practicing polyamory don&#8217;t like to advertise the fact. I&#8217;m completely comfortable with people knowing these things about me. Doesn&#8217;t make any difference to my life, as far as I can make out.) <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">&#8216;Delicia&#8217; is a beautiful young thing. She has very wealthy parents. And she&#8217;s studying something at college. 24-years-old, and wrenchingly gorgeous. Delicia has a boyfriend, &#8216;Flydude&#8217;. He&#8217;s exceptionally wealthy, due to his being an international man of mystery, in the aviation field. Flydude only sees Delicia about six times a year, for about a week at a time. During this week, he shags her senseless, and makes her see the value of long distance relating.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Outside of this week of decadence, he regularly deposits inhumanly large amounts of money in her student account. So much money that she has, shall we say, &#8216;grown to appreciate the good life&#8217;.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Our friend enters the scene. His name is &#8216;Lovestruck&#8217;.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Somehow, Lovestruck meets Delicia through a mutual acquaintance. And he is immediately smitten. It&#8217;s love at first glimpse. True love. For both of them.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">But here&#8217;s the problem. Delicia appears not to have any agreements in place with the super-wealthy, money-in-my-account Flydude. These non-existent agreements are around the area of extramural activities.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">(To the non-poly-minded reader, it might be useful to point out that polyamory is NOT about having affairs or casual sexual flings. It&#8217;s about having commited relationships with more than one person. With rules of engagement. Truth on the table. Negotiated ways of approaching things.)<br \/><o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p>  <u1:p><\/u1:p>  <\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Quite simply put&#8230; Delicia is a &#8216;kept woman&#8217;. She is paid vast sums of money to be Flydude&#8217;s &#8216;babe-on-tap&#8217;.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">But now Delicia has proclaimed her love for Lovestruck. And has assured Lovestruck that everything&#8217;s gonna be okay, and he has nothing to worry about.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Lovestruck specifically doesn&#8217;t have to worry about the fact that Flydude comes from a military background. And that his mysterious activities overseas yield him untold fortunes. And that he has connections in places that most people don&#8217;t have places.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">In short, Delicia is assuring Lovestruck that she &#8212; at the tender age of twenty-four &#8212; has the necessary bomb-disposal skills to protect Lovestruck from the wrath of Flydude.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Here&#8217;s Lovestruck&#8217;s dilemma as presented to the group&#8230;<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Should Lovestruck regard this as a poly-Vee, with Delicia at the apex of the Vee, and Flydude and himself on the arms?<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">A &#8216;Vee&#8217; is one of the many possible permutations available to polyamorous people. Think of a guy with two girlfriends. He loves both of the girls, and each of them loves him. The two girls aren&#8217;t involved with each other. They know ABOUT each other, and may even KNOW each other. But they&#8217;re not in any kind of relationship with each other. They&#8217;re in primary, commited relationships with the same guy. That&#8217;s a &#8216;Vee&#8217;.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Let&#8217;s pause while Sarah brings us our supper.<\/p>\n<p>Right.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Here&#8217;s how the group responded to G.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Two people summed up G&#8217;s presentation of Lovestruck&#8217;s dilemma in three words each. <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">J said: &#8216;Run, <st1:place st=\"on\"><st1:place st=\"on\">Forest<\/st1:place><\/st1:place>, RUN!!!&#8217; <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><st1:place st=\"on\"><st1:city st=\"on\"><st1:city st=\"on\"><st1:place st=\"on\">Roy<\/st1:place><\/st1:city><\/st1:city><\/st1:place> (that&#8217;s me) said: &#8216;It&#8217;s a duck.&#8217; <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><st1:place st=\"on\"><st1:city st=\"on\"><st1:city st=\"on\"><st1:place st=\"on\">Roy<\/st1:place><\/st1:city><\/st1:city><\/st1:place> went on to explain what his three words meant. &#8216;If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, squawks like a duck, and swims like a duck, there&#8217;s a very, very good chance that it&#8217;s a duck.&#8217; <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Which is short-hand for, &#8216;This situation is EVERYTHING it appears to be.&#8217; <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I&#8217;ll elaborate. <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I think it&#8217;s pretty obvious that no matter how love-struck Lovestruck is, Delicia is one ultra-manipulative, dishonest, high-maintenance, extremely-dangerous, high-priced courtesan. <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I&#8217;m holding back from using the word &#8216;Hooker&#8217; out of respect for Lovestruck&#8217;s delicate emotional state right now. Such words might throw him into a deep funk of resistance to outside opinion. <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">But for godsake! Let&#8217;s get some perspective here&#8230; On their very first date, Flydude BOUGHT Delicia a frigging CAR! <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I ask myself two questions about this: <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">1. What type of a dude buys a girl a car on their first date? <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">2. What type of a gal ACCEPTS a car from a stranger on their first date? <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><i>Answer 1. It&#8217;s a duck. <o:p><\/o:p><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><i>Answer 2. It&#8217;s a duck. <o:p><\/o:p><\/i><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">The consensus at the deliciously-laden vegan table at Earth2 in Emmarentia, served by the delightful Sarah, was that G should advise his friend to proceed with caution. Not because of the physical harm Flydude might inflict. <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">No. <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Such harm would be trivial in the face of the emotional harm that Delicia is ALREADY inflicting on the hapless Lovestruck. And there&#8217;s so much more to come if Lovestruck continues on the flight-path fate has chosen for him. Because Delicia is almost certainly the gift that keeps on giving. <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Consensus in the room was that this ISN&#8217;T a poly situation at all. It&#8217;s a good time gal having multiple affairs (yes&#8230; Lovestruck isn&#8217;t her first extra-mural &#8216;boyfriend&#8217;). There&#8217;s very little, if ANY, truth on the table. And &#8216;New Relationship Energy&#8217; (did I mention that Lovestruck and Delicia only met three weeks ago?) is in full swing. <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Sigh. Does anyone else have any advice for Lovestruck? <o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">Oh yeah&#8230; I asked G to ask Lovestruck one question&#8230;<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">&#8216;Has Lovestruck been indulging in the pleasures of the flesh WITH condoms or without?&#8217;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">If the answer is &#8216;with&#8217;, my feeling is that it would be best to encourage him to continue in that vein.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">If the answer is, &#8216;Well&#8230; She&#8217;s a really beautiful woman, and she&#8217;s totally truthful, and Lovestruck really trusts her, and she&#8217;d never lie to him, and they&#8217;ve both had their HIV tests, and she&#8217;s not sleeping with anyone else, and she&#8217;s really head over heels in love with Lovestruck, and it&#8217;s all fine&#8230;&#8217;, well, uh, how can I be tactful here?<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I would tell Lovestruck that if he ISN&#8217;T using condoms in his explorations of her love for him, then he reallllllllllly needs help.<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\">I just felt that this needed to be on the table.<o:p><\/o:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><u1:p>What do you think? What would YOU do in Lovestruck&#8217;s position?<o:p><\/o:p><\/u1:p><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><u1:p><i>For more info on polyamory as a lifestyle choice, please visit <\/i><\/u1:p><i><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/zapoly.wuzzle.org\/\">http:\/\/zapoly.wuzzle.org\/<\/a>.<o:p><\/o:p><\/i><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\">Roy Blumenthal is a writer, director, artist, and <a href=\"http:\/\/snipurl.com\/visualfacilitator\">visual facilitator<\/a>. Hire him to make pictures of your meetings or workshops.<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Friday, May 4, 2007 Service: * * * *Food: * * 1\/2Ambience: * * *Babe Count: * * * * As you might know, I attend a polyamory supper once a month. 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